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Deciding XM or Sirius ? Here's a review.
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JH@nospam.com
2003-10-12 02:48:53 UTC
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I agree with your review.

I have BOTH services and ended up canceling XM. Sirius has a far better
selection of music.
The only station I really listened to on XM was Ethel, on Sirius they
have about 5 Ethels!

I read in the past about Sirius sound quality not being as good as XM,
well all I have to say is no way, Sirius has better sound than my XM ,
its crisp and clean. XM always sounded muffled.

I am so glad I tried out Sirius, it won me over with quality and great
music selection.
LADYAUSSIEFAN
2003-10-15 17:30:51 UTC
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I love XM!! I was looking at Sirius but when I saw that XM had UPOP the channel
that plays music from the UK and around the globe I immediately got xm this
past friday. I love it!!! One of the best gadgets I have ever bought!

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2003-10-18 04:38:09 UTC
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Post by LADYAUSSIEFAN
I love XM!! I was looking at Sirius but when I saw that XM had UPOP the channel
that plays music from the UK and around the globe I immediately got xm this
past friday. I love it!!! One of the best gadgets I have ever bought!
Candy
I think it's the better choice of the two. I've had XM for about
four weeks, and the AM/FM radio is almost never used now, except
that I've connected the XM unit to its auxiliary so as to feed XM
into a radio in the kitchen so as not to miss anything!
I'd recommend XM to anyone wondering about going in for satellite
radio. (No, I have no connection with them: just a customer).
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Dave Yeager
2003-10-26 02:05:46 UTC
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apologies for my ignorance, but what is "Ethel"? Am interested in hearing
more about your comparison
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I agree with your review.
I have BOTH services and ended up canceling XM. Sirius has a far better
selection of music.
The only station I really listened to on XM was Ethel, on Sirius they
have about 5 Ethels!
I read in the past about Sirius sound quality not being as good as XM,
well all I have to say is no way, Sirius has better sound than my XM ,
its crisp and clean. XM always sounded muffled.
I am so glad I tried out Sirius, it won me over with quality and great
music selection.
R J Carpenter
2003-10-26 23:08:22 UTC
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Post by ***@nospam.com
The only station I really listened to on XM was Ethel, on Sirius they
have about 5 Ethels!
That would turn me against Sirius.

With a limited number of music channels, it seems like a bad choice to waste
5 of them on very similar genres. Sinking 10% of your music channels in one
genre is wrong.

One of the great strengths I see / want in satellite radio is a wide choice
of genres.
Phillip
2003-12-15 18:19:41 UTC
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I have XM and the Talk Radio is better with FREE AM
XM does not have any good host except Hannity.
The open road would be good if they dumped Bozo.
He makes us all look like dumbies.
Post by Dave Yeager
apologies for my ignorance, but what is "Ethel"? Am interested in hearing
more about your comparison
Post by ***@nospam.com
I agree with your review.
I have BOTH services and ended up canceling XM. Sirius has a far better
selection of music.
The only station I really listened to on XM was Ethel, on Sirius they
have about 5 Ethels!
I read in the past about Sirius sound quality not being as good as XM,
well all I have to say is no way, Sirius has better sound than my XM ,
its crisp and clean. XM always sounded muffled.
I am so glad I tried out Sirius, it won me over with quality and great
music selection.
Rich Wood
2003-12-16 16:12:55 UTC
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Post by Phillip
I have XM and the Talk Radio is better with FREE AM
XM does not have any good host except Hannity.
The open road would be good if they dumped Bozo.
Hannity isn't an XM product. The show is owned by ABC and is just
carried by XM. Same with Truckin' Bozo (Clear Channel). Both can be
heard on terrestrial radio.
Post by Phillip
He makes us all look like dumbies.
I'm biting my tongue. Taking a shot at this one is just too easy.

Rich
Randy Lahey
2004-07-05 15:36:37 UTC
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If you listen carefully enough, you can tell Hendrie does both voices in
his interviews. They modify the alleged "guest" voice with a synthesizer.

He's as phony as Howard Stern's wig.

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< snip >
Phil Hendrie is funny in small doses.
< snip >
Small doses is about right. I burned out on Phil Hendrie after I realized
I was
constantly listening to a rehash of previous bits.
He only has a few hours of material in his repertoire.
f***@sbcglobal.net
2004-07-05 23:58:15 UTC
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Post by Randy Lahey
If you listen carefully enough, you can tell Hendrie does both voices in
his interviews. They modify the alleged "guest" voice with a synthesizer.
He's as phony as Howard Stern's wig.
PHONY??? Give me a break! It's common info that he does ALL the guest
voices. Phil has even admitted this ON THE AIR many times.The "Callers" are
VERY real....frightening real, some are very stupid.
All the voices are done by mouth and the use of a telephone mouthpiece. No
synthesizer is used.
The TRUELY amazing part is the dumb-shits that fall for this act. Most of
them would rank as true "Winners/Dolts/Dimwits" or just plain stupid. Some
of the responses are just funny as shit.
Sal M. Onella
2004-07-06 16:35:09 UTC
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Post by f***@sbcglobal.net
Post by Randy Lahey
If you listen carefully enough, you can tell Hendrie does both voices in
his interviews. They modify the alleged "guest" voice with a
synthesizer.

< snip >
Post by f***@sbcglobal.net
The TRUELY amazing part is the dumb-shits that fall for this act. Most of
them would rank as true "Winners/Dolts/Dimwits" or just plain stupid. Some
of the responses are just funny as shit.
Callers often include a righteous policeman whenever the "guest" is
advocating something shady. I used to think the cops had a "sixth
sense" about perps -- maybe not. BTW, I never heard a woman
officer call.
Randy Lahey
2004-07-06 16:35:14 UTC
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Had no idea it was a common fact.
I listened to Hendrie a total of 2 nights for about 15 minutes, and as
I've done studio work in radio, I'm sensitive to voicing and phrasing and
could tell right away what was up. Have a different perspective now
that you've (albeit hot-headedly) told me... Interesting...

As you can imagine from 30 minutes in the car, I thought I simply
"discovered it" and thought, "Just another jackass on the radio...";
OTOH, if that's his entire shtick, I can't be too far from right. Anyway,
try decaf next time.

I don't think people who are tricked into deceit are "stupid", anymore
than I fault a spouse who's other half runs around on them. Deceit IS the
entire point of the show--so how can you blame people for falling into it?
Post by f***@sbcglobal.net
Post by Randy Lahey
If you listen carefully enough, you can tell Hendrie does both voices in
his interviews. They modify the alleged "guest" voice with a
synthesizer.
He's as phony as Howard Stern's wig.
PHONY??? Give me a break! It's common info that he does ALL the guest
voices. Phil has even admitted this ON THE AIR many times.The "Callers"
are VERY real....frightening real, some are very stupid. All the voices
are done by mouth and the use of a telephone mouthpiece. No synthesizer is
used.
The TRUELY amazing part is the dumb-shits that fall for this act. Most of
them would rank as true "Winners/Dolts/Dimwits" or just plain stupid. Some
of the responses are just funny as shit.
Wavking
2004-07-09 00:44:27 UTC
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Post by Randy Lahey
I don't think people who are tricked into deceit are "stupid", anymore
than I fault a spouse who's other half runs around on them. Deceit IS the
entire point of the show--so how can you blame people for falling into it?
They're the same people who think Delilah is actually LOCAL in they're town
and have no idea she's syndicated .......
http://www.radiodelilah.com/
Tom Betz
2004-07-05 23:58:23 UTC
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Post by Randy Lahey
If you listen carefully enough, you can tell Hendrie does both voices in
his interviews.
hehehe.
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john sumner
2004-07-07 18:40:17 UTC
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Post by Randy Lahey
If you listen carefully enough, you can tell Hendrie does both voices in
his interviews. They modify the alleged "guest" voice with a synthesizer.
He's as phony as Howard Stern's wig.
So how long did it take you to come upwit that little gem enstein?
Hawkeye
2004-07-12 05:06:06 UTC
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Its not that hard. If you are a redneck its XM...Nascar and the
Bozo..along with all that crap...If you like sports its Sirius. NFL
and no Bozo...Both have good music. Doctors ,,,,Doctors do it now do
it now..;) yes XM plays the same ads over and over on all channels.
David Eduardo
2004-07-12 19:34:45 UTC
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Post by Hawkeye
Its not that hard. If you are a redneck its XM...Nascar and the
Bozo..along with all that crap...If you like sports its Sirius. NFL
and no Bozo...Both have good music. Doctors ,,,,Doctors do it now do
it now..;) yes XM plays the same ads over and over on all channels.
XM has no ads on the music channels.
D Ray
2004-07-13 16:48:48 UTC
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Post by Hawkeye
Its not that hard. If you are a redneck its XM...Nascar and the
Bozo..along with all that crap...If you like sports its Sirius. NFL
and no Bozo...Both have good music. Doctors ,,,,Doctors do it now do
it now..;) yes XM plays the same ads over and over on all channels.
There are no ads on XM music channels, just like Sirius. Both have
ads on talk channels. XM has more music channels and less talk.
Hence, fewer ads than Sirius.
Wavking
2004-07-14 05:33:32 UTC
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XM has NASCAR
Sirius has a GAY CHANNEL

"You do the math"
-Michael Waltrip
Post by D Ray
Post by Hawkeye
Its not that hard. If you are a redneck its XM...Nascar and the
Bozo..along with all that crap...If you like sports its Sirius. NFL
and no Bozo...Both have good music. Doctors ,,,,Doctors do it now do
it now..;) yes XM plays the same ads over and over on all channels.
There are no ads on XM music channels, just like Sirius. Both have
ads on talk channels. XM has more music channels and less talk.
Hence, fewer ads than Sirius.
Mark Jeffries
2004-07-15 00:12:34 UTC
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Post by Wavking
XM has NASCAR
Sirius has a GAY CHANNEL
"You do the math"
-Michael Waltrip
Which would be?
Scott Dorsey
2004-07-15 15:38:45 UTC
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Post by Mark Jeffries
Post by Wavking
XM has NASCAR
Sirius has a GAY CHANNEL
"You do the math"
-Michael Waltrip
Which would be?
Yeah, but which one do you get if you're a gay NASCAR fan?
--scott
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Rich Wood
2004-07-16 16:27:15 UTC
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Post by Scott Dorsey
Yeah, but which one do you get if you're a gay NASCAR fan?
I would guess you'd get the one most important to you. I doubt being
gay prevents you from enjoying NASCAR.

Since I have both SIRIUS and XM in both the house and the car I can
listent o any combination of anything I want.

Rich
Bob Haberkost
2004-07-17 17:17:36 UTC
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Post by Rich Wood
Post by Scott Dorsey
Yeah, but which one do you get if you're a gay NASCAR fan?
I would guess you'd get the one most important to you. I doubt being
gay prevents you from enjoying NASCAR.
Since I have both SIRIUS and XM in both the house and the car I can
listent o any combination of anything I want.
Rich
I could have sworn that Sirius has NASCAR programming, too. And (good God!) they're
also clearing that NRA travesty of truth, too.
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Troublemaker
2004-07-19 02:55:00 UTC
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Post by Scott Dorsey
Post by Mark Jeffries
Post by Wavking
XM has NASCAR
Sirius has a GAY CHANNEL
"You do the math"
-Michael Waltrip
Which would be?
Yeah, but which one do you get if you're a gay NASCAR fan?
--scott
The Jeff Gordon channel?
Phil
2004-07-19 22:49:10 UTC
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On 19 Jul 2004 02:55:00 GMT, "Troublemaker"
Post by Troublemaker
Post by Scott Dorsey
Post by Mark Jeffries
Post by Wavking
XM has NASCAR
Sirius has a GAY CHANNEL
"You do the math"
-Michael Waltrip
Which would be?
Yeah, but which one do you get if you're a gay NASCAR fan?
--scott
The Jeff Gordon channel?
Bozo they do nascar also...

Steve Sobol
2004-07-15 15:38:43 UTC
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Post by Wavking
XM has NASCAR
Sirius has a GAY CHANNEL
"You do the math"
-Michael Waltrip
NASCAR is widely viewed as the sport of choice for good ol' boys
everywhere. So what's your point? Are you telling people to choose
the gay channel vs. the redneck channel?
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JL
2003-10-26 02:06:09 UTC
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Sirius blows, and every audio magazine out there agrees. Sirius is heading
for Chapter 11, while XM is about to pick up its 1,000,000th customer.
Post by ***@nospam.com
I agree with your review.
I have BOTH services and ended up canceling XM. Sirius has a far better
selection of music.
The only station I really listened to on XM was Ethel, on Sirius they
have about 5 Ethels!
I read in the past about Sirius sound quality not being as good as XM,
well all I have to say is no way, Sirius has better sound than my XM ,
its crisp and clean. XM always sounded muffled.
I am so glad I tried out Sirius, it won me over with quality and great
music selection.
drewdawg
2003-10-26 23:07:37 UTC
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Post by JL
Sirius blows, and every audio magazine out there agrees. Sirius is
heading for Chapter 11, while XM is about to pick up its 1,000,000th
customer.
Based on just what I've heard I agree Sirius blows. They use 'PAC' which
the standards committee rejected for IBOC because it is substandard for the
lower bitrates Sirius uses. Doesn't take a genius to take those facts and
spell Sirius as DOA.

Oh, and I've heard both and XM does sound better.
Rich Wood
2003-10-26 23:07:48 UTC
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Post by JL
Sirius blows, and every audio magazine out there agrees. Sirius is heading
for Chapter 11, while XM is about to pick up its 1,000,000th customer.
You must be reading different audio magazines than I am. Mine say
Sirius sounds cleaner.

I chose Sirius because it sounds less compressed to my ears.

Rich
pacman
2003-10-26 23:08:11 UTC
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I also have XM, have for the last 2 yrs. I am very pleased with the
service. I looked into Sirius and wasnt too impressed. Just my 2 cents
worth.
Post by JL
Sirius blows, and every audio magazine out there agrees. Sirius is heading
for Chapter 11, while XM is about to pick up its 1,000,000th customer.
Post by ***@nospam.com
I agree with your review.
I have BOTH services and ended up canceling XM. Sirius has a far better
selection of music.
The only station I really listened to on XM was Ethel, on Sirius they
have about 5 Ethels!
I read in the past about Sirius sound quality not being as good as XM,
well all I have to say is no way, Sirius has better sound than my XM ,
its crisp and clean. XM always sounded muffled.
I am so glad I tried out Sirius, it won me over with quality and great
music selection.
John A. Figliozzi
2003-10-28 20:21:39 UTC
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I think in reading the comments to date on this subject, it's quite
apparent that it's all in the mind (or ears?) or the beholder. To my
ears (which have admittedly been assaulted by over 35 years of shortwave
listening), the audio quality and signal reliability of each service is
quite similar. The decision for me to go with Sirius rested on the non-
commercial and proprietary nature of their music channels and the
presence of more public radio options (ie: BBC, WRN, two NPR, one PRI and
C-SPAN) including access to more international broadcasters (BBC and
WRN). The $3 differential in monthly charges was no factor and in my
judgement the allocation of channels to differing aspects of the musical
spectrum was a wash between the two.

Quite frankly, I think--especially in light of the terrible state of AM
and FM radio--a listener would be pleased regardless of which service
were chosen. But, as they say, your mileage may vary.

John
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Rich Wood
2003-10-29 17:46:00 UTC
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On 28 Oct 2003 20:21:39 GMT, "John A. Figliozzi"
Post by John A. Figliozzi
Quite frankly, I think--especially in light of the terrible state of AM
and FM radio--a listener would be pleased regardless of which service
were chosen. But, as they say, your mileage may vary.
Thank you. You're one of the few people who lives in a world of color
and shades of grey. Neither service is absolutely better than the
other. I'd love to have a receiver that received both.

What we're forgetting is the incredible accomplishments of the people
who created these services. I'm very fortunate in knowing many of them
as friends. Just the fact that they were able to design, fund and
construct them is a testiment to their willingness to go very far out
on a limb and take risks.

My hat is off to them and I'm very happy to call them friends. Many of
the shows I've been involved with are now on one or both services. I
hope they both succeed. They deserve it.

Rich
Moonman
2003-10-29 17:46:04 UTC
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This is a great tip! I was primarily interested in talk/news, not music. I
love radio, and I want to get away from right-wing talk on AM. Still, it
doesn't sound like there are very many talk/news stations on Sirius. Do you
(or anyone) have any idea what kind of satellite service would bring me all
those international broadcasters that I seem to remember claim satellite
presence? Or, what about more NPR stations? How can I get those (other than
on my computer, which is too old for that)?
Post by John A. Figliozzi
I think in reading the comments to date on this subject, it's quite
apparent that it's all in the mind (or ears?) or the beholder. To my
ears (which have admittedly been assaulted by over 35 years of shortwave
listening), the audio quality and signal reliability of each service is
quite similar. The decision for me to go with Sirius rested on the non-
commercial and proprietary nature of their music channels and the
presence of more public radio options (ie: BBC, WRN, two NPR, one PRI and
C-SPAN) including access to more international broadcasters (BBC and
WRN). The $3 differential in monthly charges was no factor and in my
judgement the allocation of channels to differing aspects of the musical
spectrum was a wash between the two.
Quite frankly, I think--especially in light of the terrible state of AM
and FM radio--a listener would be pleased regardless of which service
were chosen. But, as they say, your mileage may vary.
John
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R J Carpenter
2003-10-30 00:04:24 UTC
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Post by Moonman
Do you
(or anyone) have any idea what kind of satellite service would bring me all
those international broadcasters that I seem to remember claim satellite
presence?
WorldSpace satellite radio has more international broadcaster channels, but
it does not cover the USA and could probably never get a license to do so.
Oddly, WorldSpace is headquartered in Washington, DC, and at least some of
their roughly 10 proprietary music channels originate from Washington. They
have a web site.

Most of WorldSpace is free to the listener.

I recently read that they are in the process of establishing at least a few
subscription channels aimed at US & British expatriates scattered around
their coverage areas in Africa and Asia.
Moonman
2003-10-30 17:52:25 UTC
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Post by R J Carpenter
Post by Moonman
Do you
(or anyone) have any idea what kind of satellite service would bring me
all
Post by Moonman
those international broadcasters that I seem to remember claim satellite
presence?
WorldSpace satellite radio has more international broadcaster channels, but
it does not cover the USA and could probably never get a license to do so.
Oddly, WorldSpace is headquartered in Washington, DC, and at least some of
their roughly 10 proprietary music channels originate from Washington. They
have a web site.
Most of WorldSpace is free to the listener.
I recently read that they are in the process of establishing at least a few
subscription channels aimed at US & British expatriates scattered around
their coverage areas in Africa and Asia.
I've seen mention of Worldspace before. I saw a couple of receivers for it
on eBay. I live in Louisiana.
Do you think there's any chance I might be in the edge of its (possible)
South American coverage?
Moonman
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Moonman
2003-10-30 18:31:12 UTC
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Post by R J Carpenter
Post by Moonman
Do you
(or anyone) have any idea what kind of satellite service would bring me
all
Post by Moonman
those international broadcasters that I seem to remember claim satellite
presence?
WorldSpace satellite radio has more international broadcaster channels, but
it does not cover the USA and could probably never get a license to do so.
Oddly, WorldSpace is headquartered in Washington, DC, and at least some of
their roughly 10 proprietary music channels originate from Washington. They
have a web site.
Most of WorldSpace is free to the listener.
I recently read that they are in the process of establishing at least a few
subscription channels aimed at US & British expatriates scattered around
their coverage areas in Africa and Asia.
I've seen mention of Worldspace before. I saw a couple of receivers for it
on eBay. I live in Louisiana.
Do you think there's any chance I might be in the edge of its (possible)
South American coverage?
Moonman
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